Anatoliy says that he heard from others that Gakhaev was from Iki Derbet ulus originally. When he was young he was sent to study in Stavropol’. In the past, gifted boys were sent there for education. Gakhaev had a house in St Petersburg, which is now a theatre. As for Amursanan, he gathered Kalmyks from Kumsky and Tersky regions who had lost their land to Russians and resettled them in the territory of Derbet.