Elena is a traditional healer. In this interview, she talks about her healing methods and her grandmother. In the beginning, Elena shows the relics that she inherited from her grandmother, Anna Mudzhikova. These relics include a sutra and a prayer drum, which she uses in her religious practices. Elena prays to Buddha Shakyamuni, Ochir Vaani, White Tara, Green Tara and Tsagan Aav every morning. In the past, Elena says she was sick and no medicine helped her. One night she saw a dream in which her deceased grandmother asked her to find their family relics, which she later found in her aunt’s house. Although Elena had a wish to heal sick people, in the beginning she did not take it seriously. Later she decided to perform a ritual of accepting gods (as her protectors). Some people said to Elena that her mother was supposed to heal people, which she did not do. After the ritual of accepting gods, Elena started to heal her relatives, and later other people as well. Her healing methods include reading prayers and massaging. Elena talks about the following two rituals: Ritual One. A ritual of ‘pouring lead’ (vylivanie svintsa) is done as follows. The head of the child is covered with a white cloth, while the healer melts lead on the oven. Then the healer reads three prayers and pours the hot lead into a bowl with water three times. First, the bowl has to be held over the head of the child, then at the level of his/her chest, and finally at the child’s feet. After the ritual the water has to be poured in a clean place where people do not walk. The lead can be re-used. This ritual is performed to protect the patient from jealous eyes, negative words, and to remove fear. Ritual Two. A ritual of ‘healing a patient with burning matches’ (lechenie razjiganiem spichek). 9 grains of rice, 9 pinches of bread, and 9 pinches of salt are put into a bowl with cold, clean water, which is held over the head of the child. While reading prayers, the healer lights a match and smokes the child by moving the match around the patient’s body. When the match burns out, the healer throws it into the bowl with water. This should be repeated 9 times with 9 matches in total. Then the healer moves the bowl around the patient 3 times clock-wise and 3 times anti-clock-wise. After that the child spits into the bowl 3 times and washes his/her face and neck with the water from the bowl. The patient waits until his/her face dries naturally. Elena says that when she reads prayers with her rosary, she communicates with her grandmother, asking various questions. Her grandmother usually answers the questions.